Discussion in 'Intelligence & Support Operations' started by lindy, Jan 31, 2012.
Attached are the powerpoint briefs.
Thanks for that Lindy.
Where is the part where it talks about the screening/assessment process you have to go through before you join an SF Group as an enabler? ;)
On slide #8, left side, under "Languages" I believe it should be "immersion" as opposed to "emersion".
Great briefing! You sure you don't want to complicate it some more? Throw in a flow chart or something?
This is for the RSTB in the 75th RR.
For SOT-As it's actually in the works. They've had two "classes" so far.
On slide #10, 4th bullet point down, it says "Exempt from DA assignments". What does DA stand for?
It's the Army assignments like recruiter or drill sergeant.
DA literally means "Department of the Army," it's in reference to assignments like the ones Boon mentioned. Since you can be selected or "voluntold" for some of these assignments, being in a position except from such assignments could be attractive to some.
I'm glad SOTAs are taking the lead. Although, I wonder if they're the ones who actually need it the least, since SOTA seems to be a somewhat self-selecting MOS in and of itself. And IIRC, the SOTA program is only for people who are already assigned to Group. It would be good if USASFC would finally develop something to screen people BEFORE they came down on orders.
Great info. In this context maybe some will find interesting the MARSOC equivalent as can be found here in their site
They now have an almost standardised initial “SOF-Support” training course (Special Operations Training Course-STC), but I am not sure if it is 8.5 weeks as stated in this page or less, as stated in another page of the site.
STC plus 3 weeks of SERE and 4-6 weeks of a MARSOF Intel “foundation” course, is presented as the “pipeline” for all Intel MOSs getting in MARSOC
And then 4-6 weeks more training, which is diversified according to the particular MOS.
All in all, they get from 17-19 weeks of training in total and a secondary MOS (NMOS) as a “Special Operations Capability Specialist”.
Marines seem to place special importance on their SOF-Support (especially Intel- they created an Intel Battalion) with some spokesmen of MARSOC publicly mentioning that their longer term goal is to thin the line between “operators” and direct support members as much as possible-even in the selection process.
Maybe it's my browser, but when I clicked on the "intel" tab in the page you linked to, it comes back blank.
I tried again myself the link is good but, I think they are having some problems with marines.mil in general these days. Took me a while to see it.
Anyway this is whats in the page. Took me some time but I managed to copy it in a .ppt file.
Nice. Thanks for going through the trouble to extract that and post it up.
That training pipeline far exceeds any enabler training program for any SOF unit I've been assigned to. Good on MARSOC.
Actually, SF MI support would mirror the Radio Recon Platoon within Radio Battalion.
They got the languages for both 19th and 20th Group(s) wrong... As well as our DTAs.
You are welcome
I totally agree. Judging from various comments made by MARSOC officers, it also has to do with Marines proving they bring something different, an area of expertise so to speak, in the SOF table.
Meaning the "MAGTF" concept of integrally task organised and "expeditionary" elements even at the lowest tactical level and the "every Marine a rifleman" mentality, this time in the higher level of a SOF context.
Something like "Every MARSOC Marine specially trained" in lack of better wording.
They changed after this was made (we just found out in Oct).
Are you talking all of the SF enablers or just SOTAs?
Radio Recon Marines are MOS 26XX (same as our 35 series guys). Their pipeline is normally DLI or Correy Station, Goodfellow, Rad Bn where they try out for Radio Recon. Their program is light years ahead of ours and get infil/exfil via any method whereas we're pretty much ruck, truck, or oh ffffffffuuuuuuudddddgggggeeeeee.