Discussion in 'Intelligence & Support Operations' started by Ravage, Jan 8, 2007.
Maybe a stupid question (or not) but what exactly are the SOF support units? Are they SF qualified ?
No. We can take that up in the Intel and Support Ops Forum if you'd like.
EDIT: Sent a PM rather than hijack a memorial thread.
Moved, Post away FF
No, but yes. Yes but no. Several slots ARE SF qualified slots (18 Series MOS) but these are Det SGT positions (1 I THINK is a maintenance slot for an 18C, but that may be at HHD).
So you can expect to see some senior NCO's with a long tab in a Support Role. The vast majority of the Support soldiers do not have a tab beyond the unit Airborne tab.
the Support slices does just that, support the door kickers. They pack chutes, make commo, analyse intel, maintain vehicles, etc. Currently in the GWOT they are going outside the wire and doing things, but they are not primarily shooters. They worry about the details so the team guys can do their thing without attending to minute details.
Are the support units for SOF any more selective than their non-SOF counterparts?
It depends. For SF units, assignments for support troops are made "needs of the Army," just like for conventional units. The only difference is assignees must be airborne qualified, or volunteer for airborne training.
Other SOF units have higher standards.
The 75th recently added a support aspect to free up line space. That way qualified personel won't be in PAC.
Cooks will be cooks, not Rangers. etc....
That's interesting. So you won't be expected to be Ranger qualified to have a support position in the Regiment?
Ravage, keep in mind that "SF" is different that "SOF." SOF is an all-encompasing term, while SF refers to a specific qualification, and a subset of SOF.
Just wanted to add that this is the case for America, it's amazing what units are considered as "SF" in other countries
So previously, even the cooks in the 75th had to be Ranger-qualified?
No, but majority were. It's pretty hard to get promoted in Regiment unless you have your tab. Needless to say there were so many tabs in my platoon that promotion was slow as hell.
Will everyone still wear the tan beret?
I don't get it. If you have an MTOE of 600, then you can have 600 Ranger-qualified or non-, right? (not counting authorized overages). Aren't all the positions victor-coded?
I hope not. I hope they made it to where the 'Rangers' that graduate RIP or ROP wear it.
Im pretty sure(but not 100%) that they wear the scroll, but sport a red beret.
That's too bad. One of the things I liked about the Ranger Regiment was that everyone in the unit was a Ranger, no need to separate people by hat.
not everyone in Ranger batt is v qualified, majority are (aside from the pv2/pfc's.) Guys get sent usually when theyre e-2's or 3's and in a perfect world take a fire team when they return (not always though);
Unless you are in weapon's squad. :doh: :doh: :doh:
Im pleased to inform you 2nd platoon has changed