Your Experiences With "Toxic Leaders"

Discussion in 'Leadership and Professional Development' started by Marauder06, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. SOWT

    SOWT SOWT Verified SOF

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    I wanna hear that story, PM if'n ya have to.
     
  2. surgicalcric

    surgicalcric Special Forces Verified SOF

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    Not familiar with "The Hurricane" I have to say. Shoot me a PM when you have time brother.
     
  3. Marauder06

    Marauder06 Intel Enabler Administrator

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    Another "toxic leader," from an article in the Army Times:

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    And for another point of view on the same topic, this letter to the editor:

     
  4. TLDR20

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    That letter made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Does this LTC think that the entire army is so unprofessional as to not look past race and gender? Is she fucking serious? That is by FAR the most ridiculous letter I have read in Army times. The fact that that woman made it to LTC with that attitude is unbelievable. Literally, unbelievable. I am disgusted right now.
     
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  5. pardus

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    Agreed. Just bloody garbage.
     
  6. TLDR20

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    Yeah I seriously cannot get over what was written above to the editor. It is beyond my comprehension that she believes that other officers in the army would go about actively sabotaging another higher ranking officer. And on top of that to imply that it was done solely based on race and gender is disgusting to me. It gets my blood pressure up just thinking about it. I wonder if she read the article in its entirety, I did, and that COL that was relieved deserved it. She treated her subordinates like garbage, set unreasonable goals and wasted unbelievable amounts of time and resources on stupid shit. But she is black and a woman does not cut it in 2011. I feel like I was slapped in the face by the above article, which I refuse to quote because it is disgusting slander.
     
  7. Freefalling

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    I don't trust Hyphens anyway; they always have an agenda.
     
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  8. Chopstick

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    These are words to live by. 1000% agree!
     
  9. is friday

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    I once had an NCO who came from a different command take over my shop when I was a bootski. He was knowledgeable in little and displayed poor leadership traits*.

    Poor leadership traits:
    1.) When he was learning his "new job" after transferring from a different command/job description, instead of getting his hands dirty with some on-the-job training--he said he "didn't need to do the work because he is a Sergeant".
    2.) Frequently put himself before his troops. Once while we worked well past 2200 (expected to be at formation at 0500 the next morning,) without chow he went and ate some chow at home. Another Sergeant hooked us up with some chow after finding out he had ditched us. Poor leader returned some time later and attempted to yell at us for eating instead of working.
    3.) Poor leader charged an NCO beneath him for doing something against regulation that he had done himself not even a month prior.
    4.) Poor leader took me to the Gunny when I challenged his authority instead of handling me himself like any NCO with a backbone would.

    That's just the stuff off the top of my head. But yeah--I definitely learned how to not be a leader from that soup sandwich.
     
  10. Marauder06

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    Looks like a lot of commanders in Hawaii are losing their jobs.

    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Mar/26/ln/ln07p.html



    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Mar/16/br/br05p.html


    Seriously? Things are so ban in the unit that you're going to need to choke out your S3? :confused:

     
  11. Freefalling

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    I can think of a few who need to be choked...
     
  12. Mac_NZ

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    I have a list somewhere.

    Hey Digrar do you know the story of the Officer from 3RAR at Butterworth who was sent home within 24hrs or some such?
     
  13. Marauder06

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    Merged the site's two "toxic leaders" threads.
     
  14. RetPara

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    I don't think we have as much a problem as the Navy has. They are averaging 1.37 major command reliefs over the past two years.
     
  15. Marauder06

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    Was there "toxic leadership" in this case? If so, was it on the part of the brigade commanders, or the 8th Army commander?

    http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific...n-s-korea-reprimanded-over-gays-skit-1.144415

     
  16. Freefalling

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    1) Depends on the content and how it was presented.
    2) I'd fire the colonels just for being dumbasses and not keeping up with current events. How many commanders have been smoked over this sort of crap in the last 12 months? At this point in our society, even if you find it funny there WILL be someone who doesn't, is butthurt, and all too willing to make you miserable for it. Trust me, I know....
    3) A skit on gay people? Well hell, can I drag out my blackface setup and perform a Vaudeville routine? No? How about one on Asians with "rorrypops?" No? Then what makes these idiots think that they would get away with this? Content matters to a sensible person, but not to the butthurt. See #2.
     
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  17. interrogat

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    My soldiers have been using Army360. I can imagine a future in which NCOs continuously check their A-360 iPhone App throughout the day to see who has better (worse?) reviews...

    "Shit, man, another joe burned me; says I don't develop him as a leader..."
     
  18. rv808

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  19. Th3 Maelstr0m

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    We were doing a joint op with the Brits, everyone was staged and ready to go. We sit around for about 30 min. PAST go time, & finally Captain --- comes out, explaining that he was late because 1) he was downloading music to listen to on the op, and 2) he was in a bid war on eBay for a comic book action figure (he collects them). He later gets a Bronze Star for that deployment & promoted to Major. Needless to say, the Brits were not amused, & from then on did all mission planning with our 1st Lt.
     
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