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RackMaster

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Polar Bear

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I look at it this way: wearing a mask costs me nothing. NOTHING. I have no problem wearing a mask. Do I believe in them? Eh... Do I think the gov't should require them? Let's go with "No." Would I wear one without a gov't requirement? Yes.

One reason I would wear a mask is surprisingly for others. Wearing one costs me nothing. Some people are understandably freaked out by the Rona. I get it. If I can take the edge off of a grocery store cashier by wearing a mask? I'm onboard. The mental health of our country as a whole is in the toilet and if wearing a mask puts an "essential employee" at ease for a moment, I'm all in.

Just don't tell me I HAVE to wear one.
Not to be the world's biggest pedant, but I've been seeing variations of this and it simply isn't true. It does cost you something, even if you don't value the cost.

People buy masks (money out of pocket). People maintain/wash masks (time and money out of pocket). Putting masks on and taking them off costs time. Wearing masks all the time has an impact on your breathing -> physiological homeostasis (calories out of pocket). Psychological/emotional costs for some. Respirational costs for others. Opportunity costs for all.

Again, to be very clear, I'm not making any judgement over the value/magnitude of these costs (I am not saying that that these costs are even significant), nor whether they should be cheerfully shouldered or not. But I'm generally against hyperbolic language. And we are at the supermassive blackhole intersection between ['volume/spiciness' of one's statement == how much emotion/virtue/magnitude one wishes to signal] and [logical blackhole from rampant and obscene misuse of the word "literal" in literally any situation but that in which it applies]. So from time to time, I feel like it's worth pointing out brute reality.
I applaud anyone who can stand to wear a mask all the time. But I can't. They bother me tremendously for many reasons. But I've been told I must so I will be writing off any cost as a "uniform" required for work. But the truth is, they are required in order to go anywhere. I am beyond saddened by where we are as a country right now. At least I will be able to say I did what they said when I get it again (cuz yeah, pretty sure I had it in March20).
 

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I applaud anyone who can stand to wear a mask all the time. But I can't. They bother me tremendously for many reasons. But I've been told I must so I will be writing off any cost as a "uniform" required for work. But the truth is, they are required in order to go anywhere. I am beyond saddened by where we are as a country right now. At least I will be able to say I did what they said when I get it again (cuz yeah, pretty sure I had it in March20).
I wore mine all day every day for work because it was required and I still got it.
 

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I wore mine all day every day for work because it was required and I still got it.

I think that's the key part the morons making up the rules will never admit. Cloth mask's were to keep the masses from buying all the n95 respirators. Then to bring the scared out of their house's. Now here we are with everyone wearing them and it's still spreading. I just wish they'd be honest with everyone and let adults, adult.
 

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I wore mine all day every day for work because it was required and I still got it.

I'm sure I'm repeating myself, regardless, my daughter is experiencing Corona-19 Round 2 as I type this.

As a computer guy familiar with processes and risk management, we can only do so much before it walks (directly) into our lives.
 

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I think that's the key part the morons making up the rules will never admit. Cloth mask's were to keep the masses from buying all the n95 respirators. Then to bring the scared out of their house's. Now here we are with everyone wearing them and it's still spreading. I just wish they'd be honest with everyone and let adults, adult.

I'm sure this sounds flippant. But virus GONNA VIRUS. If we want to live in a truly free and open society, then we must protect our freedoms, or if we are to somehow sacrifice some of that, then the government literally needs to compensate me for inhibiting my ability to earn a wage. However, I'm against that as well. I have literally DONE EVERYTHING. I'm lucky, for now, to still have a job. But my company has been in a hiring freeze since August, they told me to apply for a promotion, a week later with the hiring freeze they cancelled the requisition. Of course I could proceed and apply somewhere else etc, but I'm trying to grow with a fledgling Sports organization and I like it here.

However, I went to LA and I talked about it in this very thread. The only thing going on in that place is businesses dying everywhere. The homeless problem is legit exploding because people are losing everything, and it's not that they're getting evicted. It's that they can't afford to eat because there are no jobs. Orange County, SB County, SD County, Riverside County, they're better than LA County. But barely. Think about how many people Disneyland employs, none of those people have jobs now.

So, we can either cut the bullshit and open this thing up, or we can continue into a spiral of a great depression that is coming fast as hell.

As far as this reaching out and touching me or someone I know. Already happened. (Now several times over) Views remain the same.

We have an unhealthy population, literally 40% of people out there are OBESE and have a FUPA. I'm doing everything I can to get in shape and support my immune system with good food and vitamins. But from my rally point in the southwest. The whole people getting out and exercising lasted like a month [at best]. I noticed how the powers that be stopped recommending exercise.

/rant over
 

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You know who else "began producing warnings" about the same time?

<-------This motherfucker right here ;)

@ODgreen Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic for (mainly) roundworms and threadworms, can be affective against others (mainly tropical diseases). Some data shows it works against COVID by inhibiting it from growing within the cell. There was a paper published last summer (June maybe) in Antiviral Research.
There is new data all the way up to December! It's taking a while for docs to catch up to it. I've had many MD's outright blow me off, but the common denominator was that they ALL cited the old data without being aware or willing to discuss the new data. The FLCCC (Frontline Covid something-rather acronym) has gathered together the studies and data into a single manuscript and it is available on their website.
 

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not always an option. I believe I remember when we were forced to take an H1N1 vaccine a while back. Of course there was the forced incarceration of anyone that hadn't taken the anthrax shots.

I remember when I was the S-1 and we had 10 dudes that refused to take a flu vaccine. I was like...geeze, thanks for me having to continuously blast your commander on on his Command and Shaft slides.
 

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Face coverings work, or else we wouldn't have seen such a drastic drop in standard cold/flu. BUT they are not as effective as the magic mask morons think they are, especially if your nose is sticking out or you've been using the same disposable mask since March.
Is it that or just fewer large setting social interactions. There seems to be enough evidence to suggest masks are simply a feel good measure and the real benefit is distancing, which is fine by me because I despise most people. 😊
 
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