National Guard SOF

BeauRing3336

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Hello SS team, I need help from people who may have gone through the process before or have knowledge of it. I'm trying to find out how the National Guard SOF program is done. I can only assume that as a soldier still serving in the Army Reserves that I will first need to transfer over to the National Guard and then start the process for SOF. What I would like to know is how its done. I have a wife and son, having said that dose anyone know if I would just have to be away from them the whole time I'm doing all the schools or if I would get to go home every so often because I live in the state. Also any information on how to get info a SOF support position the person I am trying to talk to wont get back to me. Maybe these questions are over his pay grade.
 

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National Guard SOF program? Are you talking about going Army Special Forces in the ARNG, or any Guard SOF positions?
 

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No sir, I'm looking fro army national guard. At this point I gather that if I wanna to the SF side of the army national guard I'm going to just have to be away from my family for those years I'm in training. So now I'm looking for SOF Support positions where I can hopefully get into a SF unit and be able to fill whatever support position they need.
 

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No sir, I'm looking fro army national guard. At this point I gather that if I wanna to the SF side of the army national guard I'm going to just have to be away from my family for those years I'm in training. So now I'm looking for SOF Support positions where I can hopefully get into a SF unit and be able to fill whatever support position they need.
We have links to the NG SF recruiting website. Check the SF forum or the Intel and Support forum.
 

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Call the recruiter at 19th or 20th Group HQ and ask them directly. They know the process inside and out. All of the SOF support positions (with the exception of some special areas) are at HHC and GSB (Group Support Battalion) which are both directly controlled at the Group level.

eta: since your location is NC, you want the 20th SFG recruiter. Start with B/1/20 since they are local and get the real scoop. 984-661-0044


20th SFG (A) Group Support Battalion is Headquartered in Gadsden, Alabama, Main line contact info is (256) 680-3660
A Company (SVC&DISTRO/ RIGGER DET) is also co-located in Gadsden, Alabama/ Main Line (256) 680-3676
B Company (MAINT) is located in Vincent, Alabama/ Main Line (205) 986-9051
C Company (MED) is located in Homewood, Alabama/ Main Line/ (205) 243-9349
D Company (FSC) is located in Montgomery, Alabama/ Main Line (334) 450-0704
 
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There are actually more opportunities to work in more areas of SOF in the USAR. However, if you are wanting to be SF its either NG or RA.
 
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Call the recruiter at 19th or 20th Group HQ and ask them directly. They know the process inside and out. All of the SOF support positions (with the exception of some special areas) are at HHC and GSB (Group Support Battalion) which are both directly controlled at the Group level.

eta: since your location is NC, you want the 20th SFG recruiter. Start with B/1/20 since they are local and get the real scoop. 984-661-0044


20th SFG (A) Group Support Battalion is Headquartered in Gadsden, Alabama, Main line contact info is (256) 680-3660
A Company (SVC&DISTRO/ RIGGER DET) is also co-located in Gadsden, Alabama/ Main Line (256) 680-3676
B Company (MAINT) is located in Vincent, Alabama/ Main Line (205) 986-9051
C Company (MED) is located in Homewood, Alabama/ Main Line/ (205) 243-9349
D Company (FSC) is located in Montgomery, Alabama/ Main Line (334) 450-0704
I will Look into 1/20th but I didn't see it on the map as far as support but I did see 2/19th out of WV that is the next closest.
 

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The reserves have PSYOP. I know it is not SF or Rangers or anything but you might find it fun.
I do have a buddy who has been working a unit in NC for a while and it dose look good. But when I watch the videos and read the information I can not fully grasp what they do. I think they might be the unit I would have to visit and see.
 

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Call the recruiter at 19th or 20th Group HQ and ask them directly. They know the process inside and out. All of the SOF support positions (with the exception of some special areas) are at HHC and GSB (Group Support Battalion) which are both directly controlled at the Group level.
Did the Battalion Support Companies go away?

PLease explain, I was not aware of any Reserve units to support. I read it was just a NG
USAR has PSYOP and Civil Affairs. NG has 2 SF Groups and some theater staff augmentation units.

USAF Reserves/ ANG have a couple of Special Operations Wings and Pararescue Wings, while the ANG has two Special Tactics Squadrons (OR and KY).
 
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Did the Battalion Support Companies go away?
It happened right after I got out so I'm not 100% sure. My understanding, which may be flawed, was that all of the BSC's and HHC Det 1/GSC were merged into the GSB to bring it into alignment with the AD Groups. The BN level work still gets done by the same people, they are just tasked out from the GSB. That gives the Group more flexibility in how they allocate resources.

(It also creates several Senior level positions affording some needed promotion opportunities for SNCOs)
 

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It happened right after I got out so I'm not 100% sure. My understanding, which may be flawed, was that all of the BSC's and HHC Det 1/GSC were merged into the GSB to bring it into alignment with the AD Groups. The BN level work still gets done by the same people, they are just tasked out from the GSB. That gives the Group more flexibility in how they allocate resources.

(It also creates several Senior level positions affording some needed promotion opportunities for SNCOs)
Huh, that's quite a shift in doctrine too.
 

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PLease explain, I was not aware of any Reserve units to support. I read it was just a NG
Besides PSYOP and CA, which have been explained. There are more support missions, for just about anything. The cool thing about the USAR, is you can fill a manning request without any significant paperwork or release. Example: SOCOM has request for an E7 11B for 24mths, in the USAR you apply, if selected you go on AD for 2 yrs working for SOCOM. In the NG, you need a unit release, a state release, and generally the state puts all types of clauses of being able to call you back. Meanwhile in the USAR, they can keep you on their books or just put you in IRR until you come back. Honestly, the USAR was way easier to do things with or get things done, they also promote like regular Army and not under the fucked up system the NG uses.
 

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Besides PSYOP and CA, which have been explained. There are more support missions, for just about anything. The cool thing about the USAR, is you can fill a manning request without any significant paperwork or release. Example: SOCOM has request for an E7 11B for 24mths, in the USAR you apply, if selected you go on AD for 2 yrs working for SOCOM. In the NG, you need a unit release, a state release, and generally the state puts all types of clauses of being able to call you back. Meanwhile in the USAR, they can keep you on their books or just put you in IRR until you come back. Honestly, the USAR was way easier to do things with or get things done, they also promote like regular Army and not under the fucked up system the NG uses.
My nephew is in PSYOP in the AR. He goes here and there, does this and that. Never seems to have any problem getting orders to go on AD for all kinds of support and schools. Now that he is married and has a kid he is doing it less and less but he has had a ton of options for doing all sorts of cool stuff.

When he is done he wants to put in a package for a commission in the Navy Reserve as an intel officer and I have been trying to talk him out of it....
 

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Actually I just looked it up the ASVAB requirements have changed. 107 for PSYOP and 110 for SF and SF requires a 100 in CO as well. Use to be 110 for PSYOP and 105 for SF.
It seems like a great opportunity. ill have to see what I can do cause I'm not the greatest at test I think I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to my 103 GT up to 105 since haven't done school in so long.
 

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Besides PSYOP and CA, which have been explained. There are more support missions, for just about anything. The cool thing about the USAR, is you can fill a manning request without any significant paperwork or release. Example: SOCOM has request for an E7 11B for 24mths, in the USAR you apply, if selected you go on AD for 2 yrs working for SOCOM. In the NG, you need a unit release, a state release, and generally the state puts all types of clauses of being able to call you back. Meanwhile in the USAR, they can keep you on their books or just put you in IRR until you come back. Honestly, the USAR was way easier to do things with or get things done, they also promote like regular Army and not under the fucked up system the NG uses.
So what your saying is that if I can find an opening for a SOF unit or deployment that I can ask or apply to go with that unit? Where can I find these opportunities or who to speak with?
 

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So what your saying is that if I can find an opening for a SOF unit or deployment that I can ask or apply to go with that unit? Where can I find these opportunities or who to speak with?
Tell me again- how long have you been in the Army?

By the way, you shouldn't worry about your GT score. You'd be better off concentrating on improving your grammar. It's atrocious.
 
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