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WSJ’s take on Gen. Flynn.

Opinion | A Pardon for General Flynn

President Trump’s decision Wednesday to pardon former national security adviser Michael Flynn is an overdue act of justice that ends four years of political harassment, unjustified prosecution and judicial abuse. If it sounds like we feel strongly about this one, you’re right.

We’ve never met the former general and decorated veteran. But every American should be worried about his mistreatment by a politicized system of justice that could happen to anyone on the wrong side of vindictive people with power.

The FBI and Justice pursued him though they knew there was no basis for an investigation. They coerced a plea of lying to the FBI though the interviewing agents thought he was telling the truth. A later re-examination ordered by Attorney General Bill Barr found that Justice and the FBI had withheld exculpatory evidence. Former FBI director James Comey crowed about how the bureau took advantage of the unsuspecting Mr. Flynn and a trusting White House to have his agents interview him without courtesies normally extended to criminals.

Justice finally moved to dismiss the charges this year, but then federal Judge Emmet Sullivan opted for political revenge by refusing to agree to the dismissal. He even tried to investigate the case himself—an extraordinary intrusion by a court into the executive branch’s prosecutorial power.

His obvious goal was to stall long enough for a Biden Administration to take power and reinstate the charges. What a disgraceful performance.

Mr. Flynn should have been vindicated in court, but Judge Sullivan was never going to give him a fair hearing. A pardon was the only avenue left to prevent Mr. Flynn from more years of punishment.

Congratulations to Mr. Trump for sparing an innocent man who served his country well but was ill-served by too many of his countrymen.
 

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WSJ’s take on Gen. Flynn.

Opinion | A Pardon for General Flynn

President Trump’s decision Wednesday to pardon former national security adviser Michael Flynn is an overdue act of justice that ends four years of political harassment, unjustified prosecution and judicial abuse. If it sounds like we feel strongly about this one, you’re right.

We’ve never met the former general and decorated veteran. But every American should be worried about his mistreatment by a politicized system of justice that could happen to anyone on the wrong side of vindictive people with power.

The FBI and Justice pursued him though they knew there was no basis for an investigation. They coerced a plea of lying to the FBI though the interviewing agents thought he was telling the truth. A later re-examination ordered by Attorney General Bill Barr found that Justice and the FBI had withheld exculpatory evidence. Former FBI director James Comey crowed about how the bureau took advantage of the unsuspecting Mr. Flynn and a trusting White House to have his agents interview him without courtesies normally extended to criminals.

Justice finally moved to dismiss the charges this year, but then federal Judge Emmet Sullivan opted for political revenge by refusing to agree to the dismissal. He even tried to investigate the case himself—an extraordinary intrusion by a court into the executive branch’s prosecutorial power.

His obvious goal was to stall long enough for a Biden Administration to take power and reinstate the charges. What a disgraceful performance.

Mr. Flynn should have been vindicated in court, but Judge Sullivan was never going to give him a fair hearing. A pardon was the only avenue left to prevent Mr. Flynn from more years of punishment.

Congratulations to Mr. Trump for sparing an innocent man who served his country well but was ill-served by too many of his countrymen.

Very interesting. Thanks for posting it so we could see past the pay wall.
 

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Lawyer’s take on Flynn pardon. I’m on the side that the courts should have resolved this vice politicians.

My Thoughts on Flynn's Pardon

Agree...but not at that level....goes with what you were saying:

"Spoiler: if a thing was successfully accomplished (UBL raid, Baghdadi, etc), it was a bottom-up driven thing that higher ups didn’t understand so they were not able to intervene. If a thing was a total shit show (all things Syria, Libya, collusion, etc), it was directed from top-down and the hands-on action officers were simply trying to climb the ladder in a lust for more power."
 

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47 USC §230 in part:

(c) Protection for “Good Samaritan” blocking and screening of offensive material

(1) Treatment of publisher or speaker
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

(2) Civil liability
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—

(A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or

(B) any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to material described in paragraph (1).[1]

The entire section is here. 47 U.S. Code § 230 - Protection for private blocking and screening of offensive material
 

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Agree...but not at that level....goes with what you were saying:

"Spoiler: if a thing was successfully accomplished (UBL raid, Baghdadi, etc), it was a bottom-up driven thing that higher ups didn’t understand so they were not able to intervene. If a thing was a total shit show (all things Syria, Libya, collusion, etc), it was directed from top-down and the hands-on action officers were simply trying to climb the ladder in a lust for more power."
That's refreshing. Normally if it worked, it was an 'Ops success," and if it didn't, it was an "Intel failure." ;)
 

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Rousing some rabble. Many of the questions are interesting and the offered answers just raise more questions.

What are voter registration requirements for MI voters?
How do unregistered voters request an absentee ballot?
What is the probability of unregistered voters casting absentee ballots at a 97% rate for one candidate?


Edit: looks like DL & address are required. Michigan Online Voter Registration
 

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@lindy who won the election, and who is getting sworn in in January?
I don’t understand why you’re asking me these questions. I’m just really tired and confused. Where are all my friends? Can I have some water? I was just doing my job and these people grabbed me...I think I hit my head. I‘m sorry what was the question? :ROFLMAO:

Unless something drastically changes via the courts, I believe these United States will send electors to DC circa mid-December and the majority of them will cast their votes for Joe Biden. I don’t know what will happen in mid-Jan but baring anything outrageous, Biden should be sworn in on the steps of the Capital.

2020’s been a doozy but I’m confident that whatever will happen, I will go into New Year’s Eve saying “If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet, I wouldn't be more surprised than I am now.”
 

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I don’t understand why you’re asking me these questions. I’m just really tired and confused. Where are all my friends? Can I have some water? I was just doing my job and these people grabbed me...I think I hit my head. I‘m sorry what was the question? :ROFLMAO:

Unless something drastically changes via the courts, I believe these United States will send electors to DC circa mid-December and the majority of them will cast their votes for Joe Biden. I don’t know what will happen in mid-Jan but baring anything outrageous, Biden should be sworn in on the steps of the Capital.

2020’s been a doozy but I’m confident that whatever will happen, I will go into New Year’s Eve saying “If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet, I wouldn't be more surprised than I am now.”
I lol’d, and thanks.
 

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Rousing some rabble. Many of the questions are interesting and the offered answers just raise more questions.

What are voter registration requirements for MI voters?
How do unregistered voters request an absentee ballot?
What is the probability of unregistered voters casting absentee ballots at a 97% rate for one candidate?


Edit: looks like DL & address are required. Michigan Online Voter Registration

This is the exact video I mentioned in my earlier post about amateurs.

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Staten Island businesses declare themselves "autonomous zones" in response to NYC mayor-directed restrictions:
COVID In NYC: In Response To New Restrictions, Staten Island Restaurant Declares Itself An 'Autonomous Zone'

Grant City restaurant Mac’s Public House is covered with signs and markings declaring it an “autonomous zone,” promising to defy the new order.

The sign on the door reads, “We refuse to abide by any rules and regulations put forth by the Mayor of NYC and Governor of NY State.”

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