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Defendants in GA later successfully argued the voting machines were owned by the counties vice state therefore they will be wiped by 30 Nov.

SECOND ORDER - PEARSON v. KEMP 11.29.2020.pdf

As you're aware, but others may not be, from a SysAdmin standpoint this is abhorrent. From a cyber security standpoint, this is criminal. If you did this in the civilian sector SarBox would ensure you go to jail or take a hefty fine.
 

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Haven’t read completely through this yet and do not support or refute the declaration contained in it. This is one of the witnesses that Powell has.

Dr. Keshavarz-Nia: Election Fraud & Cyber Security – Operation Freedom
Sure, when compforce says it, it's nothing, but let Dr Keshavarz-Nia say it and it's news... lol, j/k I can summarize that document for you in one sentence

Leading security researcher with CISO, DoD, CIA and NSA credentials states that the pattern of vote counts from the NYT is irregular and accuses Dominion et. al. of using Hammer and Scorecard along with software modification to change the counts undetectably in battleground states.

What does it change? Probably nothing. No footprint, no evidence. No evidence, no case. The best that his statement does is state that they *could* have done it, not that they *did* do it. Without a great deal of supporting evidence outside the statement this is a nothing burger. Only with other direct evidence that it was actually exploited does it become a big deal.

The one assertion he makes that has some weight without other evidence is that the auditing function (ImageCast) of the machines was disabled. If so, then states that legally require vote audits will have to throw out large numbers of absentee ballots, which could very well flip the election. If the courts were to direct audits as a result of his assertion, it's huge. BUT, the courts would have to hear enough evidence to make that call and force the states to incur the expense. If that were to be ordered, we'll have interim President Pelosi because there isn't enough time to hand audit the complete voting set or even a statistically relevant set between now and the Inauguration. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

If I were the courts, I'd ask for a simple sanity check. How many votes do you have? How many ballot images do you have? Do the numbers align closely? (there will always be some minor disparity due to file corruption, human error, machine ate my ballot, etc.) If yes, then the Plaintiffs need more proof. If no, then order an audit and recount enforcing the state laws around legal ballots.
 

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What does it change? Probably nothing. No footprint, no evidence. No evidence, no case. The best that his statement does is state that they *could* have done it, not that they *did* do it. Without a great deal of supporting evidence outside the statement this is a nothing burger. Only with other direct evidence that it was actually exploited does it become a big deal.

That sentence right there pretty much summarizes the through line of all the "damning affidavits" that I've seen.

People claiming all the various ways this could have happened (such as USB drives for access, sending data to Scytl in Germany to be changed on upload, hack machines directly, stealing laptops, etc) but not having any evidence of it occuring.
 

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As you're aware, but others may not be, from a SysAdmin standpoint this is abhorrent. From a cyber security standpoint, this is criminal. If you did this in the civilian sector SarBox would ensure you go to jail or take a hefty fine.

From a government standpoint, it’s screams “promote now”...or drop off at nearest train station.
 

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People claiming all the various ways this could have happened (such as USB drives for access, sending data to Scytl in Germany to be changed on upload, hack machines directly, stealing laptops, etc) but not having any evidence of it occuring.
Sounds a lot, nay, EXACTLY like the entire Trump-Russia “story”, nyet comradski?

My point: maybe there are just people who want to watch the entire thing burn.
 

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Sounds a lot, nay, EXACTLY like the entire Trump-Russia “story”, nyet comradski?

My point: maybe there are just people who want to watch the entire thing burn.
I don't think it's exactly the same, but it definitely rhymes with the "Russia stole it for Trump" idea.

I want to see an investigation into our election processes and their security in much the same way I wanted to see an investigation into the Russian meddling.

I don't think this was fraud on the level of 10s of thousands of fake votes, but I do think our system is open to abuse and negligence.
 

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I just come to this thread for the hope porn, at this point, and it never disappoints.

Trump 2020!!!!


ETA- @compforce you should send your data to someone that can action it.
They have the same data and actually quote it in the affidavit. He came to the exact conclusion that I did with regards to PA and the 3% add to the votes in every state (he quotes 1-2%, but that is what you would get if you used the total after the add rather than the growth above the existing total like I did).
 

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I don't think it's exactly the same, but it definitely rhymes with the "Russia stole it for Trump" idea.

I want to see an investigation into our election processes and their security in much the same way I wanted to see an investigation into the Russian meddling.

I don't think this was fraud on the level of 10s of thousands of fake votes, but I do think our system is open to abuse and negligence.

Yes, not fraud but rather “here’s an outrageous thing that cannot be proven but if you don’t believe it you’re an unamerican and untrusting of governmen’s ability to do the things”.

Russians didn’t meddle/interfere in the election. Fucked around a bit during the campaign but zero election related activities, according to press and Muller. If the presidential election is so damn important that We must do whatever it takes, even hamstring an administration for YEARS, to get to the truth, let’s just follow the norms!

Mueller interviewing Biden before 2020 is out would be the icing on the cake.

Cornpop was a bad dude!

Im not going to get into that!

“We the People, in order to form a more perfect union“ did this. Now We need to take our medicine.
 
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