The China Thread (Threat)

[Devildoc]

China's only interest is China. They will absolutely fuck anyone to get what they want; to get what they need? Fuhgettaboutit....

 

[ThunderHorse]

Fired people for the Tom Cotton Op-Ed...but it's totes mcgotes cool to publish this Op-Ed praising China for it's takeover of Hong Kong. ARE WE UPFUCKINGSIDE DOWN?

Opinion | Hong Kong Is China, Like It or Not

HONG KONG — No amount of outcry, condemnation or sanctions over the Chinese government’s purported encroachment in Hong Kong’s affairs will alter the fact that Hong Kong is part of China and that its destiny is intertwined with the mainland’s.

Hong Kong has been rocked by a series of crises after the eruption of protests last year over a proposed bill (long since withdrawn) that would have allowed the extradition of some suspects in criminal cases to mainland China.

Hong Kongers who wanted the city promptly to return to peace thought the authorities’ handling of the situation, which dragged on for months and grew more and more violent, was incompetent. For other locals, many outsiders and apparently much of the global media, a people’s legitimate quest for more democracy was being suppressed.

Something had to be done, and the Chinese authorities did it.

The scale and frequency of antigovernment protests has now subsided — thanks to a national security law for Hong Kong promulgated in Beijing on June 30.

Several prominent democracy advocates have since announced their retirement from politics, disbanded their parties or fled the city.

(Might be a fit for the politics thread, dunno)

 

[RackMaster]

@ThunderHorse that fits here.

 

[Cookie_]

Fired people for the Tom Cotton Op-Ed...but it's totes mcgotes cool to publish this Op-Ed praising China for it's takeover of Hong Kong. ARE WE UPFUCKINGSIDE DOWN?

Opinion | Hong Kong Is China, Like It or Not



(Might be a fit for the politics thread, dunno)

I thought at first this was written as a defeatist "Hong Kong can't stop China no matter how hard we try" type story, but then I saw Regina Ip wrote it.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I thought at first this was written as a defeatist "Hong Kong can't stop China no matter how hard we try" type story, but then I saw Regina Ip wrote it.

It's very dogmatic propaganda for sure. I understand it's an Opinion, but why in the world would the NYT be so far up China's ass to give them such a platform?

 

[Blizzard]

Anyone still questioning China's motives?

Here’s What Could Happen If China Invaded Taiwan


A Chinese military training complex in Inner Mongolia, shown in this satellite image taken on Sept. 29, includes full-scale replicas of targets such as Taiwan’s Presidential Office Building.

Source: Satellite image 2020 Maxar Technologies

 

[Cookie_]

Anyone still questioning China's motives?

Here’s What Could Happen If China Invaded Taiwan

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A Chinese military training complex in Inner Mongolia, shown in this satellite image taken on Sept. 29, includes full-scale replicas of targets such as Taiwan’s Presidential Office Building.

Source: Satellite image 2020 Maxar Technologies

I know from reading that we've done similar things for practicing raiding POW compounds during Vietnam and other high risk ops, but they weren't usually built out in the open (at least not when satellites were overhead).

Almost like they want you to see it.

 

[Devildoc]

I know from reading that we've done similar things for practicing raiding POW compounds during Vietnam and other high risk ops, but they weren't usually built out in the open (at least not when satellites were overhead).

Almost like they want you to see it.

I recall reading a story about Reagan, how he wanted a subtle 'show' during the Cold War in the early 80s, so had a US sub pop up somewhere close to a Soviet fleet, then submerge and disappear. I think sometimes 'hiding' those not-so-subtle messages in the open sends a HUGE message.

 

[Blizzard]

I recall reading a story about Reagan, how he wanted a subtle 'show' during the Cold War in the early 80s, so had a US sub pop up somewhere close to a Soviet fleet, then submerge and disappear. I think sometimes 'hiding' those not-so-subtle messages in the open sends a HUGE message.

Or like when he sent a SR-71 over North Korea to do figure-8s with sonic booms over a meeting of communist officials, just to let them know that we knew they were there.

 

[DA SWO]

Or like when he sent a SR-71 over North Korea to do figure-8s with sonic booms over a meeting of communist officials, just to let them know that we knew they were there.

I need a link on that one.

 

[Blizzard]

I need a link on that one.

Brian Shul is a former sled driver who's written some great books/stories about his experiences. He mentions it in this video at about the 17:20 mark:

 

[Devildoc]

Brian Shul is a former sled driver who's written some great books/stories about his experiences. He mentions it in this video at about the 17:20 mark:

I have his book on PDF if anyone wants it...

 

[racing_kitty]

I have his book on PDF if anyone wants it...

Yes, please!

 

[SaintKP]

I have his book on PDF if anyone wants it...

I also would like having it love hearing about that plane.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Mark Cuban mansplaining his and the NBA's stance on China to Megyn Kelly.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1315722370833887237

 

[GOTWA]

Mark Cuban mansplaining his and the NBA's stance on China to Megyn Kelly.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1315722370833887237

I disagree with the mansplain comment. I just don't see it. Mark has a point too. As shitty as the answer is, there's no action behind the response she's looking for. If the NBA condemns them, will Apple? Nike? They're just words.

 

[ThunderHorse]

It's all about money. The NBA castigated a GM for having the balls to say he stands with the people of Hong Kong who are for democracy and not a communist dictatorship. He clearly is beating around the bush because he only cares about the money in merch sales and broadcast rights the NBA gets from China. You can say you prioritize domestic issues, but our domestic human rights issues can't even hold a candle to how bad China is.

 

[Blizzard]

I disagree with the mansplain comment. I just don't see it. Mark has a point too. As shitty as the answer is, there's no action behind the response she's looking for. If the NBA condemns them, will Apple? Nike? They're just words.

Mark is way off base. He said she doesn't know what she's talking about but he certainly doesn't either or is just unwilling to be truthful about it. His "solution" was to allow more asylum seekers here. That's ridiculous and we don't have the resources to accommodate that many people. Change must occur in China but he doesn't want to risk losing that customer. It's that simple.

 

[AWP]

Money and influence can make one's moral compass look like Flight 19's over the Bahamas...

 

[Blizzard]

Money and influence can make one's moral compass look like Flight 19's over the Bahamas...

Was someone else watching NatGeo's show on the Bermuda Triangle last nigjt?!