How many rounds do you actually think you’ll expend? That’s the million dollar question. Isn’t the new MC logic on the M27 based on accuracy vs. rounds sent down range? I won’t knock you guys for changing things up, but fuck if you are trying to send a lot of rounds (22 mags worth) it would be better to have a SAW with drums. If you don’t think you’ll need 22 mags bring 10 30 round mags or 15-20 20 round mags.
ETA: most guys in rifle squads I know roll out with 120-200 rounds, my old SL had 3x 40 round mags he obtained on his own. I don’t see a situation outside of “goddam VC is coming over the wire!” Where you’ll need that much ammo.
How many rounds do you actually think you’ll expend? That’s the million dollar question. Isn’t the new MC logic on the M27 based on accuracy vs. rounds sent down range? I won’t knock you guys for changing things up, but fuck if you are trying to send a lot of rounds (22 mags worth) it would be better to have a SAW with drums. If you don’t think you’ll need 22 mags bring 10 30 round mags or 15-20 20 round mags.
ETA: most guys in rifle squads I know roll out with 120-200 rounds, my old SL had 3x 40 round mags he obtained on his own. I don’t see a situation outside of “goddam VC is coming over the wire!” Where you’ll need that much ammo.
That smug Joe face.22 loaded 556 30-round mags is almost 20 lbs. We carried 20-24 mags in the bandoliers that the factory boxes of 556 came in...but they were only 20-rounders. I guess they don't have bandoliers anymore for 30-round boxes, but if they do...
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Funny thing about Internet forums. Off handed and out of context comments can be interpreted many ways, what is the intent of yours? I ask because it adds nothing to the subject of this thread.That smug Joe face.
Funny thing about Internet forums. Off handed and out of context comments can be interpreted many ways, what is the intent of yours?
That smug Joe face.
22 loaded 556 30-round mags is almost 20 lbs. We carried 20-24 mags in the bandoliers that the factory boxes of 556 came in...but they were only 20-rounders. I guess they don't have bandoliers anymore for 30-round boxes, but if they do...
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Smug Joe (Bob Carrier) earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze w V at 7th Co 2nd CAG...and later was a fellow squad leader with me at F 2/6. I used his pic only to illustrate the use of bandoliers for rifle mags BITD.
If I remember correctly, there's a string you can pull in the stitching in the bandolier that the ammo comes in and it will fit 30-rounders. I'm pretty sure that's what I did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So those bandoliers you had in OIF/OEF might be a viable option for the OP?
So those bandoliers you had in OIF/OEF might be a viable option for the OP? And do the bandoliers still come with 20-rounds to a box? I mean, we did have mag pouches, like 3 or 4, but you can't wear 20 of them and we wanted as many full mags as we could carry so the bandoliers were really handy...and you could distribute the weight across your chest.
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They'll carry, but honestly, they werent that tough, the stitching got ripped out pretty easy and snags would rip the thin cloth pretty easily as well.
Maybe they're built better now?
They hold 30rds per carton, but I wouldn't consider it a solid option for day to day operations. It's one thing to have a few set up for "oh shit situations" sitting in a gun truck or set aside for a resupply. But I wouldn't want my guys working out of them for daily movements. There are plenty of options out there that will properly secure magazines on kit. Everything from pouches on body armor, to leg drops to assault packs, etc.
Rog that on both your replies. Obviously I'm going back to the dark ages for the bandolier solution...but we carried our extra mags in them all the time and never had a problem. And that's through jungle, monsoon, high humidity, scorching heat, crossing rivers etc. And in a contact, even on semi-auto, we'd burn through a shitload of mags.