Israel and Iran

Secondly, they don't have 30% of the population. If they did they wouldn't need to spend millions shaping public opinion. Pretending they did, which is highly unlikely, most of these people are low skilled white collar workers or the dregs of society. Sure they have a smattering of people everywhere, except politics, media, and academia, but they're not even a minority. That's not even taking into account the different social, cultural, or political tribes of the "-isms".
I'm not so sure this is necessarily accurate depending on how you define "positive view of Socialism."

For the sake of this discussion, I'll personally define socialism as, "the governments acquisition of resources, by force via taxation, that will then be redistributed to the "community" for the "benefit" of the community, as opposed to the individual."

Examples include, but are not limited to: Social Security, Medicare/Medicare, Public transportation, Public Servants (Trash collectors/Firefighters/Police/EMT's, etc.)

Now, some of the aforementioned groups, like the police and firefighters, I think all of us are probably on board giving a portion of our tax dollars for those communal services. It just makes practical and logistical sense...unless you're a pure Libertarian, then your results may vary.

I say all that just to point out how broad the definition of "socialism" can be depending on how one defines it.

Now, getting the topic back on track. Instead of pointing to the Jews as a monolith and blaming them for funding the ongoing chaos, a better target may be higher education...the same place that seems to breed these crazy Fascist or Marxist ideologies across time and space.

Carl Marx-education: Humboldt University of Berlin (German Ivy League)
Oswald Mosley-Winchester College (Boarding school that feeds into Oxford)
Mao Zedong-First Normal School of Changsha (Elite)
Bin Laden-Oxford
Shiro Ishii-Kyoto University (Elite)

Now, if one wanted to make the argument that Jews, kind of like Asians, tend to have a large amount of academic success and have "more access" to some of the more prestigious, and dangerous imo, universities? I could easily buy that for a dollar. But, again, I would put the focus on the universities for churning out Neo-Marxist crap, which is a completely legit and prescient problem.
 
I'm not so sure this is necessarily accurate depending on how you define "positive view of Socialism."

For the sake of this discussion, I'll personally define socialism as, "the governments acquisition of resources, by force via taxation, that will then be redistributed to the "community" for the "benefit" of the community, as opposed to the individual."

Examples include, but are not limited to: Social Security, Medicare/Medicare, Public transportation, Public Servants (Trash collectors/Firefighters/Police/EMT's, etc.)

Now, some of the aforementioned groups, like the police and firefighters, I think all of us are probably on board giving a portion of our tax dollars for those communal services. It just makes practical and logistical sense...unless you're a pure Libertarian, then your results may vary.

I say all that just to point out how broad the definition of "socialism" can be depending on how one defines it.
I think we're getting in the weeds regarding semantics. Any functioning civilization that has complex systems is going have some sort of -ism. I highly doubt socialists make up 30% of our population. Just because someone likes being outside it don't make them a Park Ranger.

Now, getting the topic back on track. Instead of pointing to the Jews as a monolith and blaming them for funding the ongoing chaos, a better target may be higher education...the same place that seems to breed these crazy Fascist or Marxist ideologies across time and space.

Carl Marx-education: Humboldt University of Berlin (German Ivy League)
Oswald Mosley-Winchester College (Boarding school that feeds into Oxford)
Mao Zedong-First Normal School of Changsha (Elite)
Bin Laden-Oxford
Shiro Ishii-Kyoto University (Elite)

Now, if one wanted to make the argument that Jews, kind of like Asians, tend to have a large amount of academic success and have "more access" to some of the more prestigious, and dangerous imo, universities? I could easily buy that for a dollar. But, again, I would put the focus on the universities for churning out Neo-Marxist crap, which is a completely legit and prescient problem.
It's not everyone. However, most Jewish people to tend to vote very liberal, support similar social causes, and share many world views. Historically and up the modern day, they're very politically active. All while creating and leading socialist organizations; much to the detriment of native populations. So yeah... they're basically Islamists with smaller numbers and better PR.

Also, Universities used to not churn out Neo-Marxists. Hell, Marxists used to be laughed out of these institutions or forcibly removed. Guess what changed in education after the 1940's?
 
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$400,000 now.

UNC is not Columbia.

UNC is a lot more like Columbia than not, "Berkley of the east." The late, great Senator Jesse Helms once said about a zoo in North Carolina, "just put a fence around UNC." I think it doesn't get in the news more because Chapel Hill ain't NYC.

These guys are outliers. In any other world I'd probably want to smack them in the mouth, but for what they did, standing claps.

Twitterverse is 50/50 for/against them and the GFM movement, it's pretty hilarious. I wonder if they'll actually see any money, and what they will do with it.
 
UNC is a lot more like Columbia than not, "Berkley of the east." The late, great Senator Jesse Helms once said about a zoo in North Carolina, "just put a fence around UNC." I think it doesn't get in the news more because Chapel Hill ain't NYC.

These guys are outliers. In any other world I'd probably want to smack them in the mouth, but for what they did, standing claps.

Twitterverse is 50/50 for/against them and the GFM movement, it's pretty hilarious. I wonder if they'll actually see any money, and what they will do with it.

Been a while since I lived in Charlotte. Had a couple of buddies who were ex-UNC-CH frat bros--Reno and Pudge--and used to party with them pretty regularly. So...I guess you could call me an expert on UNC. Interestingly, Reno could projectile vomit 6-7 feet from a standing position.
 
Been a while since I lived in Charlotte. Had a couple of buddies who were ex-UNC-CH frat bros--Reno and Pudge--and used to party with them pretty regularly. So...I guess you could call me an expert on UNC. Interestingly, Reno could projectile vomit 6-7 feet from a standing position.

UNC is extraordinarily liberal. That said, it also has 'old southern money,' and I imagine some of the frat bro's are part of that generational, conservative family. To be honest some of the most conservative folks I know went there. But some of the wackiest libs I know also went there.

When I was a paramedic, that was the city/county I worked in most of my EMS career. I ended up dating a fair number of UNC gals. And some whose names I never learned who I shagged at various locations around town. Man, I got some stories. In fact I might start a separate thread about 'hook up and dating stories.' I know we all got 'em.

Edited to add, I also met my wife at UNC: when I was a medic she was a social worker in the ED.
 
$400,000 now. That's a party where people will fucking die LOL.

UNC is not Columbia. You pull this shit at southern schools and you're gonna have some serious opposition. With the exception maybe of USF, Terrorist University.
They closed out at just over half a million in just a couple days. Not bad, boys.
 
H.R. 6090 passed the House. It basically gives a non US entity the IHRA the right to define what antisemitism is. They recently tried twice to pass something similar and failed, this time they made it.

The group defining anti-Semitism is the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance. Apparently the State Dept agreed to a non legally binding definition back in 2016. Congress is pushing to codify it into law. IHRA definition on anti-Semitism labels Christian iconography as well as teaching the Gospel as anti-Semitic.

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Larger list with security concerns:
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The Department of State has used a working definition, along with examples, of antisemitism since 2010. On May 26, 2016, the 31 member states of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), of which the United States is a member, adopted a non-legally binding “working definition” of antisemitism at its plenary in Bucharest. This definition is consistent with and builds upon the information contained in the 2010 State Department definition. As a member of IHRA, the United States now uses this working definition and has encouraged other governments and international organizations to use it as well.

Bucharest, 26 May 2016

In the spirit of the Stockholm Declaration that states: “With humanity still scarred by …antisemitism and xenophobia the international community shares a solemn responsibility to fight those evils” the committee on Antisemitism and Holocaust Denial called the IHRA Plenary in Budapest 2015 to adopt the following working definition of antisemitism.

On 26 May 2016, the Plenary in Bucharest decided to:

Adopt the following non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism :

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

To guide IHRA in its work, the following examples may serve as illustrations:

Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).

Criminal acts are antisemitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people or property – such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries – are selected because they are, or are perceived to be, Jewish or linked to Jews.

Antisemitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others and is illegal in many countries.

Oddly enough the IHRA scrubbed the page this was on. However someone managed to save it.
What is antisemitism?

About the IHRA non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism

The IHRA is the only intergovernmental organization mandated to focus solely on Holocaust-related issues, so with evidence that the scourge of antisemitism is once again on the rise, we resolved to take a leading role in combating it. IHRA experts determined that in order to begin to address the problem of antisemitism, there must be clarity about what antisemitism is.
The IHRA’s Committee on Antisemitism and Holocaust Denial worked to build international consensus around a non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism, which was subsequently adopted by the Plenary. By doing so, the IHRA set an example of responsible conduct for other international fora and provided an important tool with practical applicability for its Member Countries. This is just one illustration of how the IHRA has equipped policymakers to address this rise in hate and discrimination at their national level.
Information on endorsement and adoption of the IHRA working definition of antisemitism can be found here.

The working definition of antisemitism

In the spirit of the Stockholm Declaration that states: “With humanity still scarred by …antisemitism and xenophobia the international community shares a solemn responsibility to fight those evils” the committee on Antisemitism and Holocaust Denial called the IHRA Plenary in Budapest 2015 to adopt the following working definition of antisemitism.

On 26 May 2016, the Plenary in Bucharest decided to:

Adopt the following non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism:

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”


To guide IHRA in its work, the following examples may serve as illustrations:

Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for “why things go wrong.” It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:
  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).

Criminal acts are antisemitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people or property – such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries – are selected because they are, or are perceived to be, Jewish or linked to Jews.

Antisemitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others and is illegal in many countries.

H.R. 6090 : https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/text

State Dept (non-legally binding) definition of Anti- Semitism: https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/

Related Bills: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6090/related-bills?s=1&r=2&q={"search":"H.R.+6090"}
 
I'm going to a convention in Madison Wisconsin this July. Same time frame as the RNC Convention in Milwaukee.

Expressed concerns yesterday that we may get bleed over. Hope not.
 
Just to add, both sides suck. One group excels at blowing themselves and others into pieces, while the other group excels at lawfare and sucking the monetary marrow from our treasury. Neither of these of these groups were problems when they were political minorities. Now the issues of the old world are at our doorstep.
 
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