Good evening gents,
I'll start by saying after posting my original intro on this site I realized it was a bit long winded and most of it should have been posted here, so that is what most of this post it. As much time as I have spent on this site I am still learning new things about it so thank you for bearing with me. Also, I have submitted by credentials and I am currently awaiting verification, I'm not an imposter.
So everything that follows is from my original intro which should have been posted here. Thanks for reading and thank you for the help in advance and so far.
Intro
How's it going everyone, let me start by saying the info I have found on here the past few years has been immensley helpful. That being said, I figured it was time I finally sign up and get more plugged in.
I'm prior enlisted, 5 years as an 0331 in the Corps. I was in from Feb '10 to Dec '14. Did two combat deployments with 3/9, first to Marjah from Dec '10 to July '11 as a 240 Gunner with India Company. Second in Khanashin from Oct '12 to Jun '13 as a Vehicle Commander in CAAT. Last deployment was a UDP to Okinawa with 1/8 SSP. (Was with the platoon for 1.5 years and we never got one school seat, I was first in line to go but that's a different story and one of many that the green weenie has gotten the best of better men as I'm sure many of you on here can attest to.)
Anyway, I've been out for about three years now and have been enrolled in college since two weeks after I got out. I will graduate at the end of this spring semester. After about 6 months of being in school I realized I wanted to get back in, to strive for something high level and challenging where I would be working with good dudes and getting the most out of myself so naturally that means SOF. For the past few years I have talked to countless people about it and done hours of research to get me to the point I am at today.
EDIT: I have always known I wanted to be a part of SOF, or at least a part of a small, elite group of tough men who had each other's backs. When I was DEP'd in my goal was Recon with the goal of eventually Force, you couldn't tell me any different. So I trained like a maniac and swam more than I ever had, I was ready. But of course my recruiter told me that he didn't have any Recon contracts and that I was sure to get my chance to tryout at SOI. And of course being the boot I was I ate it up. Naturally, at the end of my SOI they did not offer an opportunity to go to a RIP platoon (first experience of the green weenie) so right from the start I tasted the adversity that builds our resolve in the infantry. I went on to have deployments that I would not trade and excelled in every billet I held, always being recognized by superiors and those who I was in charge of but never getting the schooling I felt I had deserved. My reward for being the best of 5 junior machine gunners upon returning from our first deployment was to be sent to weapons company to be a vehicle commander. Great opportunity but my in my old company MGLOC seat was given to someone else and in my new company they already had their slots filled. Fast forward to my time in the SSP. I excelled in the INDOC which was a true old school, 2 week INDOC (credit to the platoon leadership for doing that as now many SSP do a watered down 3 day INDOC) and went on to compete through the PIG experience to earn a slot to school. When the smoke cleared I was number one slotted to go.. once, twice, three times and we never sent a soul. During my UPD in Oki, the three of us who had earned our spots to go to the basic course in Kanohe Bay were told halfway through the deployment, "You're not going to the basic course. The regimental commander of our parent command has refused to approve the funding for your off island training because the last battalion sent three guys and they all failed." That day I decided to get out and enroll in college.
Re-enter original intro:
That point is leaning towards obtaining an 18X contract. I feel either SF or MARSOC would be the better fit for me and what I hope to do based on what I know of all the different SOF communities. My heart will always be in the Corps but the fact of the matter is that there is no contractual guarantee that I will get to go to A&S if I reenlist with the Corps, they simply don't offer it. Plus many have told me that they feel SF is more established and organized since they have been around longer. I would be proud as hell to don the Raider pin or the Green Beret, either goal means a great deal to me. However my fear lies in reenlisting to the Corps and submitting an A&S package only to be on a B billet hit-list from a monitor or some other green weenie BS. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads and need some real guidance on which route to take, not some underground stuff or recruiter half-ass advice. I have talked with guys I know who are still in and look up to and have sought their advice but I need guidance from this community.
In typical small Corps fashion, my local recruiter is a guy I deployed with and I have taken my reenlistment package with him and the Army recruiter as far as I can without deciding which side of the house to commit to. I qualify to reenlist in either branch and I've checked all of those boxes just so everyone on here understands where I am at in the process. I will graduate in May, so I still have some time but I would really appreciate any input from everyone on here, it seems like no matter how much you research, even on here, the best answers you get are from direct responses and at times I know guys have offered to meet up with those in need on here. That's the kind of looking out for another that I miss being a part of, authentic care for a brother in need.
Playing rugby for my school has filled the void of brotherhood for me since I've been out and has kept me in great shape and provided challenge and discipline. While I have done well with that and loved every bit of it, I can't wait to graduate and get back in. Apologies for the long introduction but I figure it was better to be thorough right from the start than too vague, I'd regret not taking full advantage of the community on here. Thanks in advance guys, appreciate what you do here.
Supplement to original intro:
So that is the bulk of it but I feel I need to add a few things via the guidelines of this thread. Like many of you, I am the kid who grew up with the quintessential poster above my bed, mine was one of the stereotypical Marines versions. When asked what I wanted to do when I grew up it was Marines, halloween was Marines and pictures from elementary school were all fatigues and military. After a year of college football I knew deep down I would regret it if I did not enlist in the Marine Corps infantry. So I disenrolled from college and enlisted. It was the best decision of my life and I am thankful for every moment of it. Even the moments where I felt I had put myself in the best position to succeed but wasn't rewarded for them (MGLOC, SS basic course) because it teaches you harsh lessons about life and gives you an opportunity to respond. Maybe the fact that I never got my chance at the Basic Course has kept my thirst unquenched these past few years, kept a small fire burning inside me that leaves me feeling not quite satisfied with what I have accomplished in the military so far. I want more, I want the best out of myself in every aspect of my life and I want to continue to serve something greater than me. I want to be back side by side with the best men on this planet, I want to be in a position to look out for the naive new guys and learn from the crusty salt dogs.
But right now I am at a serious impass where I cannot decide to take a risk on reenlisting in the Corps or taking a contract route through the Army.
So to be more direct I guess my questions are surrounded by two main issues.
1. Does anyone have insight on the obstacles I will run into if I reenlist into the Corps as an infantryman and then try to work up my A&S package internally through my battalion? I feel like I should know better at this point than to trust "things will work out".. as much as I want to believe that, if I end up recruiting somewhere with my A&S package in the trash can because of some clown monitor or company leadership that could care less then I wouldn't be able to live with my decision. That being said, the Marine Corps lineage, including that of the Raiders has always been my heart.
2. There is so much conflicting information about the op tempo and mission set of Raiders it is hard to sift through the BS. I feel that the SF mission is well documented and because it has been around longer, a bit more predictable. There is also so much white noise about organization, both macro and micro of MARSOC being very rough and you always hear the phrase "growing pains" being tossed around. So the question is for the current and past Raiders who are generous enough to help on this site, what is your no BS take on the current mission set, op tempo and organization of MARSOC?
Hell of a long post, I know. But this kind of stuff isn't something that is best served too vaguely. It deserves real attention as the lifestyle and the decisions surrounding it demand it. I have done the research, talked to the buddies, sought the advice but the people on this site are in the positions I seek to attain, so there is no better resource than you all. This decision means a lot to me, it is something I have been thinking about for a long time and I appreciate you guys helping out on here. Kill.
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Lots of good info in your post, I took the liberty of "bolding" your questions to make them easier for members to catch. Ooh-Rah
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